"I dunno... something about me a genetic denim don't mesh, but these are not at all as pictured. There are no rips on the knees and the rise is about 15"! These were huge. I ordered a size 31 since my measurements are hips 39 and actual waist 29. These are definitely made for a man. The legs fit pretty tight but the hips and butt area were waaaaay to BIG Save you money!"
